{"id":3235,"date":"2012-12-03T14:05:13","date_gmt":"2012-12-03T14:05:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.theweekinimaging.com\/?p=3235"},"modified":"2013-03-31T17:28:50","modified_gmt":"2013-03-31T21:28:50","slug":"ethical-or-unethical","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.enxmag.com\/twii\/the-week-in-imaging-twii\/sales-and-service\/2012\/12\/ethical-or-unethical\/","title":{"rendered":"Ethical or Unethical?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_1824\" style=\"width: 151px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.enxmag.com\/twii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Art-Post-21.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1824\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1824\" title=\"Art-Post-2\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/www.enxmag.com\/twii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Art-Post-21.jpg\" width=\"141\" height=\"141\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1824\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Art Post<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Some companies use em and some don&#8217;t. For those of you who are new to the business, I&#8217;ll try to make some sense of the padded lease rates. Padding means to increase the lease-rate factor from the leasing company\u2019s published rate. Meaning, the leasing company will provide the direct branch or dealer with a rate factor of .0276 for a 36-month fair market value lease, thus a $10,000 piece of equipment would cost $276 per month to lease. The dollar amount time\u2019s rate factor equals cost per month.<\/p>\n<p>Now here comes the sneaky part (geez, I hope I do not get phone calls from attorneys with pointy sticks!); The direct branch or dealer will raise the rates to the reps, such as the rate going from .0276 (36-month\u00a0FMV) to .0289 (36-month\u00a0FMV), thus a $10,000 piece of equipment will now cost the customer $289 per month. The direct branch or the dealer will then &#8220;back out&#8221; the rate\u2014meaning,\u00a0take the payment and divide by the real rate factor (.0276), which will then equal the total dollar amount that is paid to the dealer by the leasing company. In this case the dealer would\u00a0receive\u00a0$10,471.01 or increased revenue of $471.01 by padding the rate!\u00a0In some instances the dealership or branch will make more money on the padded rate than one would make on commission.<\/p>\n<p>What&#8217;s unethical about this you might ask? For me there are a few items that bother me. A, if I am the sales person and I wrote a sale price of $10,000 for the system it would not be true because we would actually be receiving $10,471.01 and not $10,000. B, the fact that it is an\u00a0FMV\u00a0rates means the customer would have the buy-out price\u00a0assessed\u00a0at $10,470.01 and not $10,000 as stated on the sales order. So, if the customer wanted to purchase the equipment at the end of the lease they would be asked to pay the\u00a0FMV\u00a0for the $10,470.01 and not $10,000.<\/p>\n<p>Many reps just quote a price per month and never show the customer the actual cost of the unit, so would they then be ethical because they never quoted the actual sale price for the piece of equipment? In other instances the leasing companies will actually give a percentage of the total dollar amount back to the direct branch or dealer by giving them higher rates, thus the padding comes directly from the leasing company.<\/p>\n<p>My beef is why do we (direct branches and dealers) use padded rates at all? If you want more profit for your box just increase the cost of the box to the reps and let them do\u00a0their\u00a0thing. Padding rates in the long run may lose more sales, because the monthly payment will be higher than your competitor if you are both at the same dollar amount. What happens when a smart rep looks at a competitor\u2019s quote and realizes that the rates are padded? Surely he will tell the customer that they are be over charged in the monthly cost and the direct branch or the dealer is not what they seem to be.<\/p>\n<p>In addition I&#8217;ve recently seen $1.00 out leases from some leasing companies, and in many states you now need to enter the rate factor or the lease interest on the face of the lease document. Can anyone tell me more on this?<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m sure there are many\u00a0arguments\u00a0to this, however it seems to me that there is no place for &#8220;padded&#8221; rates in our industry.<\/p>\n<p>Good selling!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Some companies use em and some don&#8217;t. For those of you who are new to the business, I&#8217;ll try to make some sense of the padded lease rates. Padding means to increase the lease-rate factor from the leasing company\u2019s published rate. Meaning, the leasing company will provide the direct branch or dealer with a rate factor of .0276 for a 36-month fair market value lease, thus a $10,000 piece of equipment would cost $276 per month to lease. The dollar amount time\u2019s rate factor equals cost per month. Now here comes the sneaky part (geez, I hope I do not get phone calls from attorneys with pointy sticks!); The direct branch or dealer will raise the rates to the reps, such as the rate going from .0276 (36-month\u00a0FMV) to .0289 (36-month\u00a0FMV), thus a $10,000 piece of equipment will now cost the customer $289 per month. The direct branch or the dealer will then &#8220;back out&#8221; the rate\u2014meaning,\u00a0take the payment and divide by the real rate factor (.0276), which will then equal the total dollar amount that is paid to the dealer by the leasing company. In this case the dealer would\u00a0receive\u00a0$10,471.01 or increased revenue of $471.01 by padding the rate!\u00a0In some instances the dealership or branch will make more money on the padded rate than one would make on commission. What&#8217;s unethical about this you might ask? For me there are a few items that bother me. A, if I am the sales person and I wrote a sale price of $10,000 for the system it would not be true because we would actually be receiving $10,471.01 and not $10,000. B, the fact that it is an\u00a0FMV\u00a0rates means the customer would have the buy-out price\u00a0assessed\u00a0at $10,470.01 and not $10,000 as stated on the sales order. So, if the customer wanted to purchase the equipment at the end of the lease they would be asked to pay the\u00a0FMV\u00a0for the $10,470.01 and not $10,000. Many reps just quote a price per month and never show the customer the actual cost of the unit, so would they then be ethical because they never quoted the actual sale price for the piece of equipment? In other instances the leasing companies will actually give a percentage of the total dollar amount back to the direct branch or dealer by giving them higher rates, thus the padding comes directly from the leasing company. My beef is why do we (direct branches and dealers) use padded rates at all? If you want more profit for your box just increase the cost of the box to the reps and let them do\u00a0their\u00a0thing. Padding rates in the long run may lose more sales, because the monthly payment will be higher than your competitor if you are both at the same dollar amount. What happens when a smart rep looks at a competitor\u2019s quote and realizes that the rates are padded? Surely he will tell the customer that they are be over charged in the monthly cost and the direct branch or the dealer is not what they seem to be. In addition I&#8217;ve recently seen $1.00 out leases from some leasing companies, and in many states you now need to enter the rate factor or the lease interest on the face of the lease document. Can anyone tell me more on this? I&#8217;m sure there are many\u00a0arguments\u00a0to this, however it seems to me that there is no place for &#8220;padded&#8221; rates in our industry. Good selling!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[87],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.enxmag.com\/twii\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3235"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.enxmag.com\/twii\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.enxmag.com\/twii\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.enxmag.com\/twii\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/10"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.enxmag.com\/twii\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3235"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/www.enxmag.com\/twii\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3235\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4243,"href":"http:\/\/www.enxmag.com\/twii\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3235\/revisions\/4243"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.enxmag.com\/twii\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3235"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.enxmag.com\/twii\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3235"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.enxmag.com\/twii\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3235"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}