Talking MPS with Ray Fuentes of Edwards Business Systems


Edwards
Business Systems based in Bethlehem, PA, along
with its sister company Virginia Business Systems
based in Charlottesville, VA, are like many
dealerships transitioning their businesses into
managed print services. As any dealer who has made
that transition or is in the midst of one will
tell you, it’s a transition ripe with challenges.
Yet, like transitioning to digital technology and
then connectivity, it is a matter of survival for
virtually every dealership in the industry.
We had an opportunity to speak with Ray
Fuentes, President of Edwards Business Systems,
about those challenges and his plans to transition
his organization into a MPS-driven dealership. We
think you’ll find his comments insightful and
illuminating.
How’s business this year at
Edwards Business Systems?
Fuentes: Slightly
up, more so as a result of the last four or five
months. We had a real horrendous winter here in
eastern Pennsylvania, so it started off slow then
picked up in the spring. Then in the summer, which
tends to be slower, the activity was very good, so
that’s encouraging. Overall, we started behind but
climbed to slightly ahead.
Can you
attribute that to any one thing?
Fuentes: A
combination of things. We went aggressively after
certain business to get some larger deals like
everybody does and had our share of successes. The
more interesting part of what we’re doing is we’re
growing our managed print services and solutions
business. Our managed print services doubled and
our solutions business quadrupled, but it still
only represents 10% of what we do. We’re talking
about migrating that and giving it more
significant impact in the next year.
I’m
really curious about your PrintPlus+ program, what
was the inspiration?
Fuentes: That’s our
branded MPS program. We started that about two
years ago and have had some good successes. We had
some dedicated people, but geography made that too
difficult. We went with champions and have had
some successes that way. Not everybody here has
adopted it. There are still some people who want
to sell traditional products and services. We’re
in the throes of turning everybody who works here
into an MPS rep come the first of the year.
Why do you think your managed print services
program, PrintPlus+, is a differentiator compared
to your competitors?
Fuentes: Managed print
services has almost become like cost per copy. At
one point when we started to do cost per copy some
years ago it was unique. Now everybody is doing
it. We separate ourselves by offering a true
managed print services program, not just offering
toner and printer service and throwing on a
tracking tool, which is what a lot of MPS
providers do. We are escalating MPS to the point
where we have developed a solution set. We’re
attacking managed print services by vertical
market. In terms of how you go after anything
these days, it’s a more practical approach and a
little more challenging for us, because we’re
mostly in secondary markets and we don’t have a
city where we say, “Your job is healthcare, just
go for it.”
We have to tweak those things.
We have a combination of geographic and vertical
market responsibilities based on our conditions.
But everyone is going to be selling managed print
services into their assignments whether by
geography or a vertical market.
How did you
prepare your current sales reps to sell managed
print services?
Fuentes: It’s an ongoing
process and starting the first of the year we’re
not just going to hit them with a magic wand.
We’ve been doing a number of things the past
couple of years, originally starting as voluntary
and for those people that were most interested we
gave them more support. We’re now telling them
we’re making it mandatory. We’ve aligned with
Thomas Cook’s Learning Outsource Center, which
we’ve used for years, focusing on how to get wider
and deeper into your client. He’s had that program
for years and has now transitioned a portion of
that program to managed print services and we are
sending our people to that. They go through basic
training and applied concepts, which is very good.
Once someone starts with us, after 90 days
if we’re happy with their activity and work ethic,
we get them into applied concepts. Sometime after
that, depending on scheduling and how well they’re
doing, we’ll put them through managed print
services training. Depending on where they are in
their development, if they’re going to stay with
us they’re to be there by the end of their first
year—some will get there sooner, some later.
We will back it up with a comp plan. We’ve
taken a look at any number of models. I belong to
the Select Dealer Group and they’re all saying the
same thing, it’s all using the Hanson Hey model,
so the better dealers get it already. It’s just a
matter of what it’s going to take your company to
get there and we all have different challenges.
Ours is size; we’re a $35 million dealership. What
we’re looking for is the effort. We know what the
challenges are going to be. All these things we’re
putting into place, and we don’t expect everyone
to be on board, but we have to go through the
process of bringing those who are willing or will
make some kind of attempt, and then deal with the
others.
What was the biggest challenge of
getting the PrintPlus+ program off the ground and
is it still a challenge?
Fuentes: The biggest
challenge is an internal one, getting people to
make the cultural change, to go from selling
products to being consultative sales people. And
it’s still a challenge. There are going to be some
people who embrace it and run with it, and there
are some people further along in their career and
will probably figure out how to do just fine from
now until then. And we’ll work around them. Then
there’s the vast majority in the middle who say,
“Okay, show me how to do it.” That’s probably
where our work is going to be.
How
different is the PrintPlus+ program compared to
two years ago when it first launched?
Fuentes: Two years ago it was revolutionary. We
were way ahead of the pack. We created a branded
Help Desk we call FirstPass. Two years ago that
was unique now it’s rather blasé.
We’re taking
the next step in that program by bringing on, from
an application standpoint, more management
capabilities and wrapping that with different
acquisition programs. The fuel for all this is not
to go in and say, “We’ll take everything over and
do it on a month-to-month basis.” You can’t do
that month-to-month; you need an extended
contract. The wrapper we’re going to put around
all of these services is an extended contract so
you can provide those things at a reasonable cost,
save the client money, and be able to make the
investment.
What percentage of your
business is managed print today and what
percentage would you like it to be in another five
years?
Fuentes: Today it’s 10 percent. I’m
looking for it to triple next year. It’s going to
take a few years before it becomes the engine of
the future so obviously the cash flow is still
from the engine of the past.
How will
hardware fit into that since you still have to
meet manufacturer quotas?
Fuentes: You
still have to feed the beast. There are still
deals you have to buy and do things from a
traditional standpoint in order to maintain your
buying power and maintain cash flow. It’s like
everything else: if we do 90 percent this year,
next year it may only be 80 percent. There are
still some traditional deals that are not MPS and
very profitable. We’re not at a point of
desperation, but if we didn’t do anything for a
couple of years I think we would be.
What’s it going to take to triple and continue to
grow your MPS business?
Fuentes: It gets
back to what I was saying earlier, we have to make
sure our sales force goes in the direction we give
them, not just by telling them they have to be MPS
reps, but by the training we’re giving them and
will continue to give them, and by their
compensation plan.
You can have a sales
rep who knocks down a $50,000 school deal and he
goes up against 20 other people and we do what we
have to do to win the business and he makes $500.
Or you can have a $50,000 deal, which we have a
few examples of, and that’s a nice sweet
spot—$35,000-$50,000 and blend it on under MPS
along with some application software and
professional services and put a wrapper on it
where we now make 40 points or $20,000. Under that
kind of deal the rep would probably make $5,000.
That’s a reality. We’ve done it a few times
already and we’re going to bring that reality home
to them. Here’s why you want to do this versus
here’s how you’ve been doing it.
With all
of these changes, whether managed print,
solutions, etc., has it made life more complicated
for you?
Fuentes: I’m 61 years old, but I’m
still excited. Yes, I’d love to go back to the
days where I threw a Royal 115 in the trunk, went
down the street, sold it, and then had a beer
after work celebrating. I had a lot of fun doing
that. I made good money, but you can’t go back. As
Alexander Graham Bell said, “When one door closes,
another one opens.”